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i think the rules and practices that the obama administration has followed are -- are quite stringent and are not being abused. but who is to say about a future president? and so i think -- i think this idea of being able to execute in effect an american citizen, no matter how awful, having some third party being -- having a say in it or perhaps some informing the congress or the -- intelligence committees or something like that, i just -- i think some check on the ability of a president to do this has merit as we look to the longer-term future. >> when it became known that the bush administration was using enhanced interrogation techniques on certain folks that had been captured, the outrage was immediate. and yet we have the u.s. targeting an american -- an american citizen and killing an american citizen and we see that the use of drones widely approve by the american people and there hasn't been much until recently out of congress. why do you -- how do you account in the difference in the reaction? are they entirely separate? is that a curious thing? >> how about politics? >> i'll
i think the rules and practices that the obama administration has followed are -- are quite stringent and are not being abused. but who is to say about a future president? and so i think -- i think this idea of being able to execute in effect an american citizen, no matter how awful, having some third party being -- having a say in it or perhaps some informing the congress or the -- intelligence committees or something like that, i just -- i think some check on the ability of a president to do...
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a new discussion with the obama administration wanting to bring gitmo to new york and give them trials where they have lawyers, rights to appeal. cross examination, decided by a jury and yet here under this government program, a high government official, i don't know who that is. judge, jury, executioner of americans. >> again, i have concerns about the hypocrisy. >> greta: forget the hypocrisy. do you have any trouble with that? >> again, i have to say it's depending on the circumstances. my feeling is that in certain circumstances, that option should be available to a president, but it should be very good intelligence and as high threshold of standards, that has to be in a country where-- >> yemen would be out to you. >> based on the circumstances it would be a higher threshold. i think as i said earlier it would not necessarily be out, but other countries where we have relations where we do work with the government not doing drones-- >> and do you think you'll be running for president. >> we'll be talking and we're certainly open to looking at 2016. >> greta: it's definitely not a n
a new discussion with the obama administration wanting to bring gitmo to new york and give them trials where they have lawyers, rights to appeal. cross examination, decided by a jury and yet here under this government program, a high government official, i don't know who that is. judge, jury, executioner of americans. >> again, i have concerns about the hypocrisy. >> greta: forget the hypocrisy. do you have any trouble with that? >> again, i have to say it's depending on the...
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administration, gates, hagel. we're trying to do the right th >> out of time. anybody think he's to the going to get confirmed. >> he's going to get confirmed absolutely. >> great roundtable. stephanie will stick around and answer your web questions and george saunders getting attention over his new book "tenth of december." he joins us next. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 seems like etfs are everywhere these days. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 but there is one source with a wealth of etf knowledge tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 all in one place. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 introducing schwab etf onesource™. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 it's one source with the most commission-free etfs. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 one source with etfs from leading providers tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and extensive coverage of major asset classes... tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 all brought to you by one firm tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 with comprehensive education, tools and personal guidance tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 to help you find etfs that may be right for you. tdd#: 1-800-345-2
administration, gates, hagel. we're trying to do the right th >> out of time. anybody think he's to the going to get confirmed. >> he's going to get confirmed absolutely. >> great roundtable. stephanie will stick around and answer your web questions and george saunders getting attention over his new book "tenth of december." he joins us next. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 seems like etfs are everywhere these days. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 but there is one source with a wealth of...
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legal reasoning for why the administration believes president obama has the power to order the killing of americans. in counterterrorism strikes around the world. look at this. ever since anybody knew such a document existed, this is how the administration has been coping with requests to see this document. this is a letter from the justice department telling the aclu that they neither confirm nor deny the existence of the documents described in your request. quote, the fact -- excuse me, the very fact of the existence or nonexistence of such diagnostics is itself classified. that's what they've been saying for more than a year. but now as of tonight, the administration admitted that that legal reasoning memo exists. the associated press first breaking the news late tonight. nbc news confirming it. the president has directed the justice department to give the memo to the intelligence committees in congress. it is the first time that this will have been seen outside the administration itself. now, the administration has openly in speeches and in public comments asserted that it believes
legal reasoning for why the administration believes president obama has the power to order the killing of americans. in counterterrorism strikes around the world. look at this. ever since anybody knew such a document existed, this is how the administration has been coping with requests to see this document. this is a letter from the justice department telling the aclu that they neither confirm nor deny the existence of the documents described in your request. quote, the fact -- excuse me, the...
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>> i think it's so encouraging to see such bold moves coming from the obama administration as we've seen, not just on this issue but on the issue of immigration, to see him coming out and saying strongly -- >> by the way, at the same time. >> at the same time, which is something i think a lot of people never would have expected. but to see him coming out and starting this task force. as a young elected official, i was so struck by what happened in sandy hook. i lived through tucson but for a long time i said i'm not going to get involved in this issue, this is not going to be something i'm going to politicize. but we saw aurora, but when it hit close to home, when it was our children, our most vulnerable, that's when it started. and seeing gabby saying we need to be brave and america is counting on you, that was a message for all of our elected officials up and down from the state house all the way to the white house. >> zach, on this issue, it's a children's protection issue that the democrats are trying to frame. it seems like the kind of thing that the boy scouts would want to get beh
>> i think it's so encouraging to see such bold moves coming from the obama administration as we've seen, not just on this issue but on the issue of immigration, to see him coming out and saying strongly -- >> by the way, at the same time. >> at the same time, which is something i think a lot of people never would have expected. but to see him coming out and starting this task force. as a young elected official, i was so struck by what happened in sandy hook. i lived through...
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administration also puts forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we provide. >> i will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists without undermining our constitution and our freedom. chris: boy, he's gotten older, hasn't he? that was president obama as a candidate in 2007, running hard against the legacy of the bush-cheney foreign policy. at issue now today the 700% rampup of drone strikes under obama. there have been 350 under obama, largely in pakistan. a key question is blowback, no one knows how many untargeted civilians have been killed by drone strikes or the damage to winning hearts and mind over there. the effect of blowback is a central theme in the television series "homeland" where the main character goes from captured marine to terrorist himself when the son of his kaptur in iraq is killed by a thrown. they watch the american vice president on tv together after that drone strike. >> the images being broadcast on some outlets around the world are the bodies of 83 dead
administration also puts forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we provide. >> i will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists without undermining our constitution and our freedom. chris: boy, he's gotten older, hasn't he? that was president obama as a candidate in 2007, running hard against the legacy of the bush-cheney foreign policy. at issue now today the 700% rampup of drone...
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former deputy assistant secretary of defense in the obama administration. i'm sorry, this just made me chuckle. david, i started thinking back to bobby jindal in 2009. panned by democrats and republicans alike. people were so nasty. they were picking on the way he walked out to the podium. it was pretty harsh. "the new york times" headline the next day was governor jindal rising star plummets after speech. is this too dangerous for a rising star to take on? >> well, these are big opportunities and there's always a chance of recovery. let's not forget one of the most universally condemned speech of recent times was bill clinton's keynote speech at the 1988 democratic convention when he got a big round of applause when he said in conclusion. he did okay. they nominated him next time and he went on to a pretty successful political career. let's not forget that last time the person who gave the response was paul ryan, who went on to gain the republican vice presidential nomination. it's a big moment. if you do well, there are opportunities. if you do badly, it'
former deputy assistant secretary of defense in the obama administration. i'm sorry, this just made me chuckle. david, i started thinking back to bobby jindal in 2009. panned by democrats and republicans alike. people were so nasty. they were picking on the way he walked out to the podium. it was pretty harsh. "the new york times" headline the next day was governor jindal rising star plummets after speech. is this too dangerous for a rising star to take on? >> well, these are...
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dealing with the administration's own efts to support president obama's priorities. how critical, joy, is party unity to the president's seblgd term agenda? >> well, absolutely critical. because harry reid decided not to do full-on filibuster reform, he still has to get through the senate and with 60 votes. and on the house side, obviously, the same thing applies. now that john boehner has broken the rule, that he's willing to move bills through with democrats as well as republicans, he still needs to hold together enough democrats so you don't see them walk away with some of these ideas. the main thing that the president has going for him is not so much the party unanimity. they are almost sort of left out in the cold because the establishment is pushing them back. they no longer have an interest in them. they want them to sit down and be kwooit because they're embarrassing them. >> five days before the state of the union address and the president seems to have done well pushing forward on his agenda. got passed the fiscal cliff. immigration front and center. gun co
dealing with the administration's own efts to support president obama's priorities. how critical, joy, is party unity to the president's seblgd term agenda? >> well, absolutely critical. because harry reid decided not to do full-on filibuster reform, he still has to get through the senate and with 60 votes. and on the house side, obviously, the same thing applies. now that john boehner has broken the rule, that he's willing to move bills through with democrats as well as republicans, he...
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and you look at this memo, which is an obama administration memo. first of all, you read it in its entirety. people can go on dotcom. it's really hard to see anything there that's -- that relates to operational security. it's not classified. it's purely legal arguments. so why has it taken until now for us to get a copy of it and let the public read it? >> we know for sure the memo was written by the justice department. we assume inside the olc, the office of legal counsel. that's what we believe. >> the sequence of events, as i understand them is this. members of congress, pat leahy, others, were demanding to see the olc memos on targeted killing of americans. >> jane harman who was in the house intelligence committee saying she was stunned more hadn't been demanding this. say they'd asked during the bush years for olc memos. >> democrats were not nearly as loud on this subject as they were during the bush years, but they were asking for them. and so what the justice department did was say, okay, we're not going to give you the olc memos because we
and you look at this memo, which is an obama administration memo. first of all, you read it in its entirety. people can go on dotcom. it's really hard to see anything there that's -- that relates to operational security. it's not classified. it's purely legal arguments. so why has it taken until now for us to get a copy of it and let the public read it? >> we know for sure the memo was written by the justice department. we assume inside the olc, the office of legal counsel. that's what we...
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>> well, there was an interesting statistic in the first year of the obama administration. i think -- or perhaps over the first couple of years in the administration. he authorized more drone strikes and more people were killed in drone strikes that he authorized than the total number of people that had before passed through guantanamo bay. that crystallizes that hypocrisy people talk about. >> you could also argue that we know drone strikes work. you know, the jury still seems like it's out with regard to harsh interrogation methods, but drone strikes work. >> in terms of the morality, you know, if you determine that there are threats out there, there are bad guys that you need to take off the battlefield but you can't go there, you can't go to pakistan, you can't go to certain places, then what alternative do you have if you can't capture them? in other words, once you have detained suspected terrorists, there are all sorts of international laws, the laws of war, the geneva conventions that say you can't touch the person, you can't, you know, punch the person in the nose
>> well, there was an interesting statistic in the first year of the obama administration. i think -- or perhaps over the first couple of years in the administration. he authorized more drone strikes and more people were killed in drone strikes that he authorized than the total number of people that had before passed through guantanamo bay. that crystallizes that hypocrisy people talk about. >> you could also argue that we know drone strikes work. you know, the jury still seems like...
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>> i'm reminded through weeks into his first term of the obama administration. time geithner gives a speech at the treasury department about our banking industry and how to save it. three weeks into the administra.ekinto his tenure. the market dropped 382 points. two weeks ago, tim geithner walked out of the treasury department, four years later, as one of the most influential treasury secretaries in the history of our country. so we get into all of these kerfuffles about one hearing or a few answers. chuck hagel is an infantryman who executed the orders of the secretary of defense and the commander in chief and understands what those people go through, and he'll be a good secretary of defense. >> i know we talked about this. bill kristol wrote the following, comparing chuck hagel to harriet myers and almost daring them to do with harriet myers. they simply thought she wasn't a first-rate candidate. they were confident that bush and the courts and the country could do better. it wasn't pleasant in 2005 for them to oppose a nominee tore to gi but it was the right
>> i'm reminded through weeks into his first term of the obama administration. time geithner gives a speech at the treasury department about our banking industry and how to save it. three weeks into the administra.ekinto his tenure. the market dropped 382 points. two weeks ago, tim geithner walked out of the treasury department, four years later, as one of the most influential treasury secretaries in the history of our country. so we get into all of these kerfuffles about one hearing or a...
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and that's because the obama administration has decided to not defend that law. the obama administration says they believe that doma is unconstitutional. they will not defend it. it is house republicans specifically who are defending that law in court at the direction of house speaker john boehner, using your tax dollars. this is chief warrant officer charlie morgan. after serving for the better part of two decades, after deploying overseas, after leaving behind her partner and their young daughter for a year while she served in kuwait, chief warrant officer charlie morgan asked for a meeting with speaker john boehner. she told the speaker that she had stage 4 breast cancer, inoperable. she told him that her own father had served in the army and was killed in a car wreck in an accident as he was getting ready for deployment in vietnam when she was just a little kid. officer morgan writing, quote, my mom and i received va and social security benefits as a result of his death. those benefits put a roof over our head, food in our bellies, and clothes on our backs. s
and that's because the obama administration has decided to not defend that law. the obama administration says they believe that doma is unconstitutional. they will not defend it. it is house republicans specifically who are defending that law in court at the direction of house speaker john boehner, using your tax dollars. this is chief warrant officer charlie morgan. after serving for the better part of two decades, after deploying overseas, after leaving behind her partner and their young...
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the memo outlines the obama administration's justification for the targeted killing of american citizens overseas by drone strikes if those citizens are considered to be high-level al qaeda operatives plotting against the united states. progressives want answers. tonight an administration official tells nbc news that president obama has directed the justice department to provide congressional intelligence committees access to classified information providing the legal rationale for these drone strikes. this comes after the white house faced a second day of questioning on the subject. spokesman jay carney says president obama is not troubled by the memo being made public. >> he thinks that it is legitimate to ask questions about how we prosecute the war against al qaeda. >> senator ron wyden, a member of the senate intelligence committee, has been a critic of the drone program for years. every american has the right to know when their government believes it is allowed to kill them. he tells nbc news, "the memo doesn't answer the central questions. when does the government have the legal r
the memo outlines the obama administration's justification for the targeted killing of american citizens overseas by drone strikes if those citizens are considered to be high-level al qaeda operatives plotting against the united states. progressives want answers. tonight an administration official tells nbc news that president obama has directed the justice department to provide congressional intelligence committees access to classified information providing the legal rationale for these drone...
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president obama took over and found they were a useful instrument on the war on terror and accelerated them during the last four years whether they're legal is one of the questions that administration has been struggling to answer publicly. they have not engaged as fully with the questions about this as a lot of people would like them to engage. what does the government have power to do. where are the limits? who makes these decisions? very important questions that were important under president bush and under president obama. >> i won't -- in 2009, eric holder at the department of justice said that waterboarding was torture and the president didn't have the right to make that call because he's talking about president bush. yet there's a kill list, "new york times" published a kill list, president obama had a list that he chose who would be targeted with drone strikes for killing. how do they square that circle? if waterboarding is beyond the scope of the president but killing someone is not. >> it raises a moral question, what is more immoral, in the hands of interrogation techniques,
president obama took over and found they were a useful instrument on the war on terror and accelerated them during the last four years whether they're legal is one of the questions that administration has been struggling to answer publicly. they have not engaged as fully with the questions about this as a lot of people would like them to engage. what does the government have power to do. where are the limits? who makes these decisions? very important questions that were important under...
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echoed the distortion that i criticized nbc news knowing they had obama administration memo justifies the drone strikes. >> now, that's kind of curious given it's t. was an nbc scoop. so o'reilly misspoke and i thought he would come back the next night and correct the record. bill, the only reason there is a drone debate right now because nbc news revealed that memo. >> bill: are you kidding me, howard? are you killed me? come on, man. the double standard of media coverage on waterboarding versus drones has been apparent for years. you don't know that? and don't give me any of this o'reilly misspoke business. you know exactly what beckel and i were talking about or you should know. so here is the big picture. by distorting the discussion i had with beckel. the left believes it can bury the hypocrisy issue but it can't. to be fair a few committed left wing people like code pink are consistent in their objection to tough measures against terrorists, not everybody on the left is hypocritical. nbc news was handed the drone memo by somebody. and it reported the story. good for them. but ha
echoed the distortion that i criticized nbc news knowing they had obama administration memo justifies the drone strikes. >> now, that's kind of curious given it's t. was an nbc scoop. so o'reilly misspoke and i thought he would come back the next night and correct the record. bill, the only reason there is a drone debate right now because nbc news revealed that memo. >> bill: are you kidding me, howard? are you killed me? come on, man. the double standard of media coverage on...
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. >> the other question it raised in your article is the obama administration asked the faa to speed up processing of integrated drones into civilian air space. they could be used by police departments, farmers, builders, hollywood, but with this progress comes some concern, right? >> absolutely. so the article by my wonderful colleague lev grossman, i believe the cover line is "drones come home." what he did is after explaining to people how much we're relying on drone technology abroad for national security, he's saying what people may be even less aware of is the degree to which they are about to come back and really explode in their domestic use. law enforcement, border control, possibly paparazzi flying little drones over the backyards or god forbid up to the windows of celebrities and a variety of other uses. everything from farmers using them to look at their crops to real estate agents who are creating little videos of properties they're trying to sell. there are a lot of promising aspects of this, as with most any technology. for instance, the internet, it's so wonderful, th
. >> the other question it raised in your article is the obama administration asked the faa to speed up processing of integrated drones into civilian air space. they could be used by police departments, farmers, builders, hollywood, but with this progress comes some concern, right? >> absolutely. so the article by my wonderful colleague lev grossman, i believe the cover line is "drones come home." what he did is after explaining to people how much we're relying on drone...
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this will be a week-long event. >> obama administration taking pride on being hooked up with the younger generation. good stuff. thank you very much. we'll have complete coverage of the state of the union tonight on nbc bay area. we'll have a look forward and the state of the union starts at 6:00 locally and then a complete wrap-up on nbc bay area news tonight at 11:00. >>> christina loren here to give us complete coverage on the great forecast for today. >> beautiful weather. the kind of weather where you can break out your spring wardrobe early. not just today, all week long. opens up a new wardrobe for many of us. as you can see right now, i want to show you this amazing picture that we have right here. this is san bruno. you can see the cloud deck here. beneath that cloud deck which is thin this morning, you can see lights out there. it will burn off quickly. here's a live look over the bay bridge. very thin marine layer this morning. it's going to get out of here very quickly as a result it is thin and we have high pressure moving in pushing winds offshore. santa rosa, watch out for
this will be a week-long event. >> obama administration taking pride on being hooked up with the younger generation. good stuff. thank you very much. we'll have complete coverage of the state of the union tonight on nbc bay area. we'll have a look forward and the state of the union starts at 6:00 locally and then a complete wrap-up on nbc bay area news tonight at 11:00. >>> christina loren here to give us complete coverage on the great forecast for today. >> beautiful...
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i want to comment on what chris rock said obama is not our daddy. he was elected by us to serve the people. i think that's where not just these celebrities have it backwards, but i think the administration has it backward. you have ask any of these celebrity what is if the president or daddy, would have put 32 executive orders on the first amendment? there would be mayhem if did he it for maybe an amendment that they throw their arms around, like they were doing at that press conference. >> good point. end on a bad point. ahead, president obama's hypocrisy on drone strikes. some liberals aren't happy with him keeping secrets from the american people. that's next on "the five" >> we're going to take a look at -- peek at the senate confirmation hearing. john brennan, the c.i.a. director nominee, president obama's c.i.a. director nominee, senators grilling him on questions ranging from drones to waterboarding to authorized leaks and on and on. so it's ongoing and i think bret baier will summarize the whole hearing at 6:00 o'clock. so stay right here. i
i want to comment on what chris rock said obama is not our daddy. he was elected by us to serve the people. i think that's where not just these celebrities have it backwards, but i think the administration has it backward. you have ask any of these celebrity what is if the president or daddy, would have put 32 executive orders on the first amendment? there would be mayhem if did he it for maybe an amendment that they throw their arms around, like they were doing at that press conference....